Matching finish to church pew

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  • #1082
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    Matt Stern
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    Hello all:

    I’m bidding on a job that requires finishing the project to match the finish of the church’s pews. They appear to be red oak with a slightly “green-ish” tint. Does anyone know, first, if they are red or white oak, and second, what finish is used?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Charlie James
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    Matt, the wood can be either since the cost is just about the same. White oak is a little cheaper around here but not by much. Red and White Oak are almost interchangeable as they age so it may be difficult to find out. Green stain can be used to mute the red color of certain wood so perhaps it was too red for them originally? Best way is to experiment with the same wood in an inconspicuous area, perhaps from underneath the pew? Best people to take samples of wood to are flooring guys and even they can have a hard time identifying pieces.Put one end of newly cut red oak in water and you can blow bubbles with it ( most times). That will change with wood sitting for a long period of time though. The rays and grains are different as well but sometimes it’s subtle. Google it and you’ll find ways to tell, probably too many…I had to do this very same thing to match a flooring job and after all my research and passing a piece around to lots of lumber people as I went, it came down to this old flooring guy that had been working in the yard forever. Even he had a little difficulty. Good luck.

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    Matt Stern
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    Thanks, Charlie. Will do.

  • #1087
    Daryl Rosenblatt
    Daryl Rosenblatt
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    Greenish, might be ash. White oak is more expensive, and tends to be for outdoor projects. Plus the pores might have been filled (doubtful), a good shot the finish is a catalyzed lacquer, something very commercial and quick to apply. And no fun to breathe.

  • #1089
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    Matt Stern
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    Thanks, Daryl. How to tell the difference between ash and oak (without actually touching it)?

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    Charlie James
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    Reiki?

  • #1095
    Joe Bottigliere
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    I was thinking more along the lines of telepathy but Reiki would work. I guess you could try smelling it. There is a distinct aroma to oak particularly when you burn it with your saw blade. But in a larger picture, the differences become more obvious. Ash’s pores are not as large and open as you might find in oak. If the board is not stained, it’s even easier to tell. Ash is more creamy looking. At least that’s my experience.

  • #1096
    Daryl Rosenblatt
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    Ash is a bit, well, yellower I guess. Joe is clearly used to cream past the pull date.

  • #1098
    Joe Bottigliere
    Joe Bottigliere
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    At least I didn’t say that oak was more green.

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